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Convex polyhedron

Postby Zapp » Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:40 pm

this is more a proof than a puzzle, but who cares, right?

What is the minimum number of triangular sides needed to form a convex polyhedron with more sides than corners. prove it.

I couldn't do it myself and I have no solution, so we just have to trust in the power of math.

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Spoiler! :
My hunch would be 3, maybe 2, but I have no way to prove it nor do I know how to approach this problem properly
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Re: Convex polyeder

Postby xander » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:24 pm

Polyeder? Is that anything like a polyhedron?

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Re: Convex polyeder

Postby Zapp » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:34 pm

xander wrote:Polyeder? Is that anything like a polyhedron?

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whoops, sorry. polyeder is the german word for polyhedron
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Re: Convex polyhedron

Postby xander » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:01 pm

Ah. In that case, I am a bit confused. In your spoiler, you state that you suspect that the minimum is either 2 or 3, but to the best of my knowledge, it is impossible to create a polyhedron with less than four faces (i.e. a tetrahedron is about as simple as things get). Must all the sides be triangular?

I suspect that the answer is 8 (i.e. an octahedron does the job), and that there is a proof utilizing the Euler characteristic, but I'm not sure that I have properly understood the question.

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Re: Convex polyhedron

Postby Zapp » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:14 pm

I did not say that the sides are exclusively triangular. you can use any 2 dimensional object as a side, as long as the polyhedron is convex and has more sides than corners. the problem only asks what the minimum number of triangular sides is necessary to fulfill those conditions.
example: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... hedron.jpg
it fulfills the requirements with 8 triangles.
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Re: Convex polyhedron

Postby Gary » Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:22 pm

From Zapp's comment (Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:14 pm ) I get 0.
Spoiler! :
A cube has 6 sides, none triangular, and 8 corners.
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Re: Convex polyhedron

Postby Zapp » Sat Nov 19, 2011 4:08 am

Gary wrote:From Zapp's comment (Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:14 pm ) I get 0.
Spoiler! :
A cube has 6 sides, none triangular, and 8 corners.


it has to have more sides than corners...
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